Joseph FORD (1830-1864) & Ann TURNER (1832-1910)
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Joseph Ford (1830 - 1864
Spouse : Ann Turner (1832 - 1910
Joseph Ford and Ann Turner were my 2nd Maternal Great-Grandparents - 5th Generation
1. Nola Irene Warren
2. .... George Ernest Edward Warren & Iris Ella Ford
3. .... .... George Dixie Ford & Sarah Jane West
4. .... .... .... Joseph Samuel Ford & Marianette Kingham
5. .... .... .... .... Joseph Ford & Ann Turner
JOSEPH FORD Birth 1830, October 20 at Edgbaston Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire Baptism 1830, December 27 at St. Martin’s Church, Birmingham Siblings 1828 – 1839 Daniel Ford 1833 – 1834 William Ford 1835 Mary Ann Ford (married William Frederick Parsons) 1837 – 1882 Francis Ford (married Ellen Osborne) 1841 – 1844 Jacob Ford 1844 Henry Ford Marriage 1857, January 5 at St. Phillips’s Church, Birmingham Spouse Ann Turner Witnesses to Marriage Emma Seedman and George Turner Residences / Occupations 1830 - Edgbarton Street, Birmingham 1851 - Air Gun Maker 5 Hospital Street, Birmingham Jan, 1857 - Gun Finisher Journeyman Brearley St West, Birmingham Jun, 1857 - Gun Finisher 3 Court, Hospital Street, Birmingham Jan, 1859 - Air Gun Finisher Back of 78 Edward Street, House 31 Court, Hospital Street, Birmingham Nov, 1863 - Gun Sight Filer 2 Court Cave (sic), Birmingham Death 1864, March 7 at 2 Court Cave, Birmingham Cause of Death Consumption Burial Witton Cemetery, Birmingham, Warwickshire |
ANN TURNER Birth 13 Mar 1832 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Baptism 30 Jun 1837 at St. Phillip's Church, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Father James Turner Mother Hannah Stanley Siblings Henry Turner Lucy Turner Marriage #1 January 5, 1857 at St. Phillip's Church, Birmingham, Warwickshire Spouse #1 Joseph Ford Children Marriage #2 February 27 1866 at All Saint's Church, Birmingham, Warwickshire Spouse #2 John Bryant Children 4. William Bryant 5. Emma Elizabeth Bryant Death 1910 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Burial Wilton Cemetery, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England |
Joseph Ford – Early Life
1830 – Birth of Joseph Ford
Joseph Ford, my great-great-grandfather, the son of Thomas Bate Ford and Elizabeth Garmans, was born on October 29 in 1830 in Birmingham.Name: Joseph FordAge: 0Birth Date: 29 Oct 1830Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1830Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, EnglandParish as it Appears: Birmingham, St MartinFather: Thomas Bate FordMother: Elizabeth FordAncestry.com. Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
1830 – Baptism of Joseph Ford
Two months later on December 27 in 1830, the baby was baptised in the St. Martin’s Church in Birmingham. His parents were noted as Thomas Bate Ford and Elizabeth Ford, living at Edgbaston Street, Birmingham and Thomas Bate Ford was a Japanner.
1851 – Census Joseph Ford
At the age of 20 years, Joseph, living with his widowed mother, Elizabeth, nee Garmans, was unmarried and working as an Air Gun Maker. His mother, aged 44 years, was earning money as a Washerwoman whilst his 15-year-old sister, Mary Ann Ford was employed as a Solderer. Their home address was 5 Hospital Street, Birmingham.
Ann Turner - Her Early Life
1832 - Birth
Ann Turner, born on March 13 in 1832 was the daughter of James Turner and Hannah Stanley. They lived in Birmingham.
Name: Ann TurnerAge: 5Birth Date: 13 Mar 1832Baptism Date: 30 Jun 1837Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, EnglandParish as it Appears: Birmingham, St PhilipFather: James TurnerMother: Hannah TurnerAncestry.com. Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
1837 – Baptism of Ann Turner
On June 30, 1837 at St. Phillip’s Church, Birmingham, five-year-old Ann was baptised, along with two of her siblings - Henry, born November 1, 1829 and Lucy, born March 6, 1836. Her parents, James and Hannah Turner were living in Howard Street, Birmingham and James worked as a Gilt Toy Maker.
1841 - Census Ann Turner
The 1841 Census in the parish of St. George, Birmingham, saw 9-year-old Ann Turner living with her father, James Turner, 35, still working as a Gilt Toy Maker, at Hospital Street, Birmingham. The rest of her family on this night included brothers, George, 14 and Henry, 11 and her younger sister, Lucy aged 6. I haven’t been able to prove it, but I suspect Ann’s mother, Hannah, died just prior to the census.
The area in which Ann and her family were living must have been very poor, as looking at the census you can see many people described as either ‘pauper, pay from parish (church), widow on relief’ etc.
Joseph Ford & Ann Turner – Their Life Together
1857 - Marriage
I believe that just prior to the marriage of Joseph Ford and Ann Turner, Ann was working as a general servant in a household in Birmingham.At the time of their marriage on January 5, 1857 at St. Phillip’s Church in Birmingham, Joseph, age 26, was a Gun Finisher who as he signed his name, had had the benefit of some education, whilst Ann, aged 23, is described as a spinster and could not sign her name.
Joseph gave his father’s name as Thomas Bate Ford, working as a Japanner and living in Hospital Street, Birmingham. Ann’s father, James Turner was a brass founder, living in Great Russell Street.
Witnesses to the marriage were Emma Seedman and George Turner.
Name: Joseph FordGender: MaleAge: 26Birth Date: abt 1831Marriage Date: 5 Jan 1857Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, EnglandParish as it Appears: Birmingham, St PhilipFather: Thomas Bate FordSpouse: Ann TurnerAncestry.com. Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
1857 – Birth of Son, George James Ford
The records indicate that Joseph and Ann’s first child, was born just three days after their marriage on January 8 whilst living at Court, Brearley Street West, Birmingham. It was not uncommon at the time for brides to walk down the aisle whilst heavily pregnant. Once the bond between the two had been publicly announced, it was considered reasonable for them to engage in sexual activity prior to their formal marriage.1859 - Birth of Son, Joseph Samuel Ford
My great-grandfather, Joseph Samuel Ford, followed his older brother on May 27 in 1859 whilst the family were living at Back of 78 Edward Street, Birmingham.1861 - Census
Two years later in 1861, the census showed the family living as lodgers in a house in Hospital Street that provided accommodation to several other families. Conditions must have been fairly squalid in this house – no doubt one of the back-to-back houses. Joseph Ford was working as a Gun Sights Filer.
Name: Joseph FordAge: 30Estimated Birth Year: 1831Relation: LodgerSpouse's Name: Ann FordGender: MaleWhere born: B'ham, Warwickshire, EnglandCivil Parish: BirminghamEcclesiastical parish: St GeorgeTown: BirminghamCounty/Island: WarwickshireCountry: EnglandRegistration district: BirminghamHousehold Members: Name AgeEliza Wyatt 53Eliza Wyatt 16Susan Biston 20Emma Bayley 21James Reynolds 45Joseph Ford 30Ann Ford 27Joseph Ford 1George J Ford 4Ancestry.com. 1861 England Census
1861 – Death of Son, George James Ford
No doubt due to the close living arrangements, contagious diseases spread quickly, particularly among the young and very old. Thus, on June 22 in 1861 at the age of 4 years and 6 months, Joseph and Ann’s first-born son, George James Ford, died at 33 Court, Hospital Street, Birmingham from the measles. The little boy was buried at Saint Martin’s Church in Birmingham.
Name: Joseph FordGender: MaleSpouse: Ann FordChild: George James FordAncestry.com. Birmingham, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1964
1864 – Death of Joseph Ford
Just three years later, and Joseph Ford also died. His trade was a Gun Sight Filer and the resulting metal dust probably contributed to his early death at 34 years from consumption.
1864 – Burial of Joseph Ford
First name(s) JosephLast name FordBirth year -Death year 1864Burial year 1864Cemetery Witton CemeteryPlace Birmingham, Witton CemeteryCounty WarwickshireCountry EnglandFamily history society contact https://midland-ancestors.shop/BIRM-CemeteriesRecord set Warwickshire BurialsCategory Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish RecordsSubcategory Parish BurialsCollections from England, Great BritainWarwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010
1864 – Birth of Daughter, Harriett Ford
Born seven months after the death of her father, Harriet Ford made it into this world on September 21 in 1864.
1866 – Re-Marriage of Ann Ford, nee Turner
After the death of her husband, Joseph Ford in 1864, with 7-year-old Joseph Samuel Ford and an eighteen-month-old daughter, Harriett, Ann remarried on February 27, 1866 at the parish church, All Saints in Birmingham. Her husband was John Bryant, a 43-year-old widower and a Tool Maker. Both Ann and John lived at Smith Street, Birmingham.
Ann’s new husband, John Bryant was 43 years old, also a widower, a Tool Maker, also living in Smith Street. His father was John Bryant, working as a Tarpolean (tarpaulin) Maker. Little Joseph Samuel was now about 7 years old.
1871 - Census
Five years later in 1871 when I checked the census entry, I thought 12-year-old Joseph Samuel Ford was missing from his mother’s new family. But I think it more likely that Joseph had become Joseph Bryant, taking on his stepfather’s surname. His mother, now Ann Bryant was 39 years old and lived in another Back-to-Back house at 147 Upper Hospital Street, 20 Court with her husband, John Bryant, aged 49 years and his son, Edward Bryant, 16 and our Joseph Samuel Ford, masquerading as Joseph Bryant, 12. Harriet Bryant, aged 6 was a child of the marriage of Ann and Joseph Ford also has a surname change. The two younger children, William, 4 years and Emma, 6 months were from the marriage to John Bryant.
Name: Ann BryantAge: 39Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832Relation: WifeSpouse's Name: Jno BryantGender: FemaleWhere born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, EnglandCivil Parish: BirminghamEcclesiastical parish: St GeorgeTown: BirminghamCounty/Island: WarwickshireCountry: EnglandRegistration district: BirminghamSub-registration district: St GeorgeHousehold Members: Name AgeJno Bryant 49Ann Bryant 39Edward Bryant 16Joseph Bryant 12Harriet Bryant 6Wm Bryant 4Emma Bryant 6 MonthsSource Information: Ancestry.com. 1871 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
1881 - Census
Ten years on, and Ann and John Bryant are still alive and living at 172-Wheeler Street, 16 Court, 3 House in Birmingham. Joseph Samuel Ford has left home – little Emma Elizabeth Bryant died in 1872 – leaving only William, aged 14, at home.
Where is Harriett who would be 16 years now? Is this Harriet living with another Bryant relative?
Name: Harriet BryantAge: 16Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865Relationship to Head: DaughterMother: Mrs. BryantGender: FemaleWhere born: IslingtonCivil Parish: St Mary IslingtonCounty/Island: LondonCountry: EnglandStreet Address: 18 Popham StreetMarital status: SingleRegistration District: IslingtonSub registration district: Islington EastHousehold Members: Name AgeMrs. Bryant 42John Bryant 22Lucy Bryant 20David Bryant 17Harriet Bryant 16Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1881 England Census
1891 – Census
John Bryant, 70-years-old still working as a Tool Maker, his wife Ann, 60-years-old and their son, William Bryant, 24, working as an Iron Forger, are living at House 10, 161 Hospital Street, Birmingham.
1897 - Death of John Bryant
I believe that John may have died in Birmingham in 1897.1910 - Death of Ann Turner / Ford / Bryant
At the age of 77, Ann died in Birmingham.Name: Ann BryantEstimated birth year: abt 1833Registration Year: 1910Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-DecAge at Death: 77Registration district: BirminghamFreeBMD. England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
1910 – Burial of Ann Bryant
Ann, nee Turner, formerly Ford, then Bryant, was buried in the same cemetery as her first husband, Joseph Ford – Wilton Cemetery in Birmingham.
Ann, nee Turner, formerly Ford, then Bryant, was buried in the same cemetery as her first husband, Joseph Ford – Wilton Cemetery in Birmingham.
First name(s) AnnLast name BryantBirth year -Death year 1910Burial year 1910Cemetery Witton CemeteryPlace Birmingham, Witton CemeteryCounty WarwickshireCountry EnglandFamily history society contact https://midland-ancestors.shop/BIRM-CemeteriesSource Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010Record set Warwickshire BurialsCategory Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish RecordsSubcategory Parish BurialsCollections from England, Great Britain