George McNAY 1855-1923)
Family Stories > 5th GENERATION > John McNay's Family
1. George McNay (1855 - 1923)
Spouse : Mary Rachael Kerr (1856 - 1915)
1. Nola Irene Warren
2. .... George Ernest Edward Warren & Iris Ella Ford
3. .... .... Leonard Leslie Warren & Burdett Launder
4. .... .... .... Charles James Warren & Agnes McNay
5. .... .... .... .... John McNay & Elizabeth Rogerson
... Children 1. George McNay & Mary Rachael Kerr
2. John McNay3. Elizabeth (Agnes) McNay
4. Janet McNay
GEORGE McNAY Birth 1855, October 16 at home, Lot 14, John Street, Oakbank, SA Marriage 1874, 8 June at residence of Jasper Copeland, Balhannah, South Australia Spouse Mary Rachael "Robina" Kerr Born 1856 in Maribyrnong, Victoria Father Thomas Kerr Mother Margaret McLellan Died 1915, October 12 at Bethesda Hospital, Melbourne, Victoria Buried Melbourne General Cemetery Occupations 1875 Miner 1879 Miner, Labourer 1882–1886 Rivetter 1903 Baker Residences 1875 Balhannah, South Australia, Australia 1878 Glanville, South Australia, Australia 1879 Lefevre Peninsula, South Australia 1879 Staplehurst, South Australia, Australia 1881 Harris Street, Lefrevre Peninsula South Australia 1882 Fisherville, South Australia, Australia 1884 Lefevre Peninsula, South Australia 1885 Mitcham Park, South Australia, Australia 1886 Exeter, South Australia, Australia 1887 Hotham, Victoria, Australia 1889 Richmond, Victoria, Australia 1903 42 Boundary Road, North Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 1915 173 Coppin Street, Richmond, Victoria, Australia 1923 70 Madden Grove, Richmond, Victoria, Australia Death 1923 at home at 70 Madden Grove, Richmond, Victoria Burial 1923 Burwood Cemetery, Burwood, Victoria, Australia Children |
George McNay's Early Life
1854 - 1856
The parents of George, John McNay and Elizabeth Rogerson, arrived into South Australia on board the ship "Hyderabad" arriving into Adelaide on December, 1854. The couple settled at Oakbank in South Australia.
The following year in 1855, their first born child, George McNay, was born. The following year in 1856 on April 5, a brother, John McNay, was born at Mt. Charles, Onkaparinga.
1857 - 1858
By February 17 in 1857, George's father had scraped up sufficient money to go ahead and purchase a property for his young family. He purchased Lot 14 John Street, Oakbank from John Schofield. In the conveyance documents, John McNay is described as "Yeoman" another word for farmer. Witness to the document was Otway M. Andrews of Mount Barker. Lot 14 is described as one quarter of an acre in Section No. 4018 situate in the hundred of Onkaparinga and County of Adelaide. The price paid was £7.
John McNay, his wife Elizabeth and their two young children, George, aged 2 years and John aged just 1 year, moved into the small cottage on the property. The rate books for Oakbank, SA for the year 1858 showed John McNay as "owner of cottage and lot, Oakbank."
In 1858 on February 20, George's mother gave birth to his first sister, Elizabeth McNay (later known as Agnes McNay), born at Oakbank. Occupation of John McNay was 'labourer' and residence was 'Oakbank'.
In 1858, John McNay, notwithstanding that his oldest child was only 3 years old, signed a petition to the Chairman and Council of Onkaparinga requesting that consideration be given to building a school at Balhannah.
But, on November 23 of that same year, John McNay died at 26 years of age. His death was caused by nephrites (kidney disease) and he died, presumably in his cottage at Oakbank, Balhannah, SA. John may have been buried at the consecrated cemetery of the Caledonian church at Inverbrackie which was built in 1848 beside the road from the Reedy Creek mine. However, I have been unable to confirm this.
George McNay was 3 years old at the time of his father's death. His brother John was one year old and his sister, Elizabeth (Agnes) just 9 months old.
1859 - 1960
During the years 1859 to 1860, Mrs. McNay is listed as owner of the cottage and 1/4 acre at Lot 14 John Street, Oakbank, and she continued to live there with her three young children.
1860 - 1861
Life would have been extremely difficult for George's mother after the death of her young husband. She must have been living in terrible conditions, without her husband and three little children to feed with absolutely no income coming into the home. She even had to borrow money to bury her husband and then make application to the Destitute Board to repay the loan. Over the next years, George's mother was to make many applications to the Board for help to sustain herself and her children with hand-outs, usually given on a three-monthly basis.
We can't know what privations Elizabeth McNay had to suffer or the circumstances which let to the birth of another child, well after the death of her husband. For on February 22, 1961, she gave birth to another daughter, who she named Janet McNay. The birth certificate lists the father as 'unknown'. The baby was born at Oakbank.
Nevertheless, George's mother, Elizabeth managed to hang onto her small cottage in Oakbank as the rate books of 1861-1870 show her as 'owner of cottage and 1/4 acre, Oakbank.' She also managed to send her children to the local Oakbank School where they all did well. For example at the annual examinations held in 1861, at the age of just 6 years, young George was awarded a Third Class Prize.
1860, November - Examination Results
OAKBANKRecently the examinations of the schools at Oakbank and Balhannah took place. In each case the examiners stated their satisfaction at the progress made during the year past.The Oakbank School was opened at 9 o'clock,when there were represent members of the District Council and other friends. At the close of the proceedings, which lasted till the afternoon, the prizes were awarded as follows by the Chairman of the District Council -.......... Third class- Boys : George McNay ......Source : Adelaide Observer newspaper, November 30, 1860
1870
The McNay family remained in the cottage in John Street, Oakbank until 1870. The offer of marriage must have seemed to be a way out of her difficulties for on September 15, 1870, Elizabeth McNay married David Chamberlain. Elizabeth was aged 36 years, a widow, David Chamberlain was aged 43, a widower and a farmer. Both were residents of Oakbank at the time of their marriage.
Elizabeth moved to her new husband's house situated on land outside Nairne. The McNay cottage in Oakbank was leased to Mr. and Mrs. Gibbons. George McNay was 15 years old at the time of his mother's second marriage. Did young George live with his mother and step-father? It is more likely that as he was old enough, he moved away and fended for himself. As for the other children, John, 13 years, Elizabeth, 12 years and Janet 9 years probably went with their mother.
George McNay and Mary Rachel Kerr's Story
1874 - Marriage
At the age of 19 yeas on June 8, 1874, George McNay married Mary Rachael (or Robina) Kerr.
McNAY - KERROn the 8th June at the residence of Mr. Jasper Copeland, Balhannah, by the Rev. S. Raymond, George, son of the late Mr. John McNay, to Mary, daughter of Mr.Thomas Kerr, both of BalhannahSource : The Adelaide Observer newspaper, June 13, 1874
George's mother, Elizabeth, married to David Chamberlain, died in January of 1875 of 'premature childbirth'. George was 20 years old and a s a married man, he was listed in the South Australian Biographical Index as a miner, living in Balhannah.
1875 - Birth of George McNay, junior
Approaching the birth of her first child George and his wife Mary must’ve been unnerved by the death of George’s mother but just a month later Mary successfully gave birth to their first child. A son whom they named George McNay. The baby was born on February 12 in 1875 at Balhannah.
1876 - Birth of Isabella McNay and 1878 - Birth of Elizabeth Margaret McNay
A second child soon followed born on December 15 in 1876 - a daughter named Isabella McNay born at Glanville in Port Adelaide. Their third child Elizabeth Margaret McNay, born on October 9 in 1878 also born at Glanville. As George and Mary‘s children were born variously at Balhannah, Glanville and at Port Adelaide, this might indicate that the young family moved around in search of work but by 1879 they had settled at Staplehurst in South Australia.
1879 - Marriage of George's sister, Agnes McNay
George’s younger sister Elizabeth or Agnes McNay was married on April 13 in 1879 . Agnes and her groom, Charles James Warren, chose to have their wedding ceremony at the home of her brother George in Staplehurst South Australia. George signed the marriage certificate as a witness.
1880 - Birth of Ellen McNay
In 1880 on September 15, Ellen McNay, a daughter and fourth child to George and Rachel McNay was born at Staplehurst. Also, at this time, an advertisement appeared in the newspaper of the Australian South Australian register on November 8, 1891 offering a mowing machine in good working order - a real bargain for just 8 pounds applications to George McKay of Harris Street Lafevre Peninsula.
1882 - Birth of Mabel James McNay
Baby Ellen McNay was soon followed by another daughter in 1882 on September 27 - named Mabel James McKay, a fifth child to George and Rachel. She was born at Fisherville, South Australia.
1884 - SA Bibliographical Index
The South Australian bibliographical index lets us catch up with George in 1884 when he’s listed as a riveter at La Peninsula.
1886 - Birth of James Albert McNay
Another child James Albert McNay son and sixth child to George and Rachel was born on March 29 in 1885 at Mitcham Park in South Australia in 1886. George was still employed as a rivetter.
Between 1886 and 1887 - Move to Victoria
During the period between 1886 and 1887. George moved his family from South Australia to Hotham in Victoria where their seventh child was born - a daughter Robina or Ruby Emily McNay - in 1887 at Hotham but this little baby was not to live long. She died at about a year old in 1888 at Hotham.
1895 - Death of Isabella Robina McNay
George and Rachael's 17 year-old daughter Isabella Robina McNay died in January 1895. Many diseases and viruses were prevalent in Australia at this time including Scarlet fever whooping cough influenza which was Spanish flu and even bubonic plague
1899 - Birth of Albert McNay
Albert McNay, son and eighth child George and Rachel McNay, was born at Richmond in Victoria, but again this baby did not live past his first birthday passing away on January 18 in 1890.
1899 - Sale of Oakbank Property
On November 7 in 1899 George McKay as heir at law to his father, John McNay, sold Lot 14 John Street Oakbank to Joseph Ross Chamberlain formally of Oakbank. How did George come to own the McNay property? Normally the property would have passed to Elizabeth's husband at her death. Did George purchase it before her death? Did David Chamberlain George to take ownership of the property? It doesn’t appear that George and his family lived at the property. They seem to have moved around South Australia in pursuit of work.
In relation to this sale, George made declaration in the matter on April 6, 1900 whilst he was a resident of Richmond in Victoria. It is interesting to note that it was 25 years after his mother‘s death in 1875 that George made moves to sell the property in Oakbank. Perhaps there were some legal difficulties involved? It seems George was required to get a declaration from my man named Thomas Burgess at Oakbank perhaps to prove George’s identity and his right to claim the property. Thomas Burgess stated that he had known George’s parents John and Elizabeth McNay from the first day of their arrival at Oak Blank. The declaration was dated April 16 1900 and under oath he stated that he knew and was well acquainted with John McNay a labourer. He stated that he had known George McNay, their eldest son born about 1855 and now a resident of Richmond in Victoria. At the time of John McNay‘s death, John owned and was in possession of Lot 14. Oakbank and the property was occupied by his widow until her death. Further that after the widow‘s death, Lot 14 Oakbank remained the possession of George McNay and the tenant at the time of this declaration was Joseph Ross Chamberlain to whom George McNay agreed to sell the allotment. This declaration was apparently required to bring the property under the provisions of The Real Property Act of 1886 but as some of the facts provided by Thomas Burgess were incorrect - for instance that Mrs McNay remained in possession and occupation of the property for the period between John McNay‘s death and her death. We know that Elizabeth McNay moved to Nairne after her second marriage and the Oakbank property and land was leased to Mr. Mrs. Gibbons. Perhaps it was Thomas Burgess' declaration that helped McNay make claim on the property as heir to his father‘s estate. In any event the outcome was that George McKay had proven his entitlement to the ownership of the property and the sale to Joseph Ross Chamberlain on November 7 in 1899 was validated and allowed to stand.
1900 - Memorial
George McNay’s family was close as shown by the memorial published in the Australian newspaper on November 24 in 1900.
McNAYIn loving memory of my dear children Isabella McKay who departed this life at Cremorne Street, Richmond on 17th of November 1895Also Albert died 18th of January 1890.Also Robina Emily who died ninth of February 1888.Inserted by their loving mother and sisters E and Anne McNay.
1915 - Death of Mary Rachael McNay
After 39 years of marriage and eight children, George’s wife Mary Rachel McNay died age 59 years at Richmond in Victoria.
DEATH - McNAYon 12 October at Bethesda Hospital Richmond after an operation Mary Rachel the beloved wife of George McNay of 175 Coppin Street Richmond dearly beloved mother of Ellen, James, Hilda, and Isabel, Mrs. Kreyts, Mrs McDonald and George McNay of Yarraville.Age 59 yearsSource : The Argus newspaper, October 13, 1915
The funeral of Mary Rachel McNay left her home at 175 Coppin Street Richmond on October 13, 1915 bound for the Melbourne General Cemetery.
1916 - Gun Club
Both George McNay and his son George Junior were keen shooters and belonged to the Essendon gun club. They competed together on many occasions and both excelled at their sport according to newspaper reports of the time.
1917 - Death of Son, Albert McNay
More tragedy for the McNay family with the death of their son James Albert McNay in World War I.
1918 - Memorial for James Albert McNay
MEMORIAL - McNAYIn sad and loving memory of my dear husband James Albert McKay who died of wounds at Boulogne April 16,1917Forth to the battle he hastened,With many comrade brave,Who eager and strong like our loved one,Now sleeps in the soldier's grave.For, far from the home of his childhood,Away o'er the ocean so deep,In a foreign land our beloved one,Is sleeping his last long sleep.He leaves behind some aching hearts,That loved him ever dear,Hearts that never shall forgetHis memory written here.His duty nobly doneInserted by his loving wife Agnes May and little Willie - 13 Madden Grove BurnleySource : The Richmond Guardian newspaper, April 20, 1918
1919 - Fined
A notice in the newspaper The Independent (Footscray) of May 10, 1919 reported that George McNay had been fined 10 shillings for allowing his stock to wonder about the streets. He was fined another 15 shillings in August 1920 for the same offence.
1923 - Death of George McNay
Eight years after the death of his wife. George McNay also passed away in 1923 aged 68 years at Richmond.
DEATH - McNAYOn 16 August 1923 at his residence 70 Madden Grove Richmond, George McKay loving father of George, Elizabeth, Ellen, Mabel, Bella, and Hilda, age 68 yearsAt restFUNERAL - McNAYThe friends of the late George McNay are invited to follow his remains to the place of internment in the Burwood Cemetery.The funeral will leave his late residence 70 Madden Grove Richmond this day August 16 Saturday.Source : The Argus newspaper, August 18, 1923
Children of George McNay and Mary Rachael Kerr
1. George McNay
Born 1875, February 12 at Balhannah, SAFather George McNayMother Mary Rachael KerrMarriage 1895 in South AustraliaSpouse Mary Rubina Nott
Born 1874, June 14 in Melbourne, VictoriaFather George NottMother Mary Rubina Jennings.Died 1950, November 6 at Footscray, VictoriaAge at Death 76 yearsBurial Footscray Cemetery, Footscray
Residences 1889 - 1897 - 13 Napier Street, Footscray (rented from David Mitchell)1903 - 1909 - 161 Lennox Street, Richmond
1913 - 1914 - 50 Ballarat Street, Yarraville
1931 - 1942 - 19 Kingston Street, Footscray NorthOccupations BakerBoiler-makerDeath 1951, October 11 at Parkville, Victoria
Age at Death 76 years
Burial Footscray Cemetery, Footscray, VictoriaChildren 1. Isabella Rubina Mary McNay
Residences 1931 - 309 Barkly Street, FootscrayBorn 1896 at Richmond, VictoriaFather George McNayMother Mary Robina NottMarriage 1919, December 20 in VictoriaSpouse William McDonaldBorn 1893 in Footscray, VictoriaOccupation FishmongerDeath 1939 in Campbellfield, VictoriaAge at death 46 years1936 - 400 Mitcham Road, VermontDeath 1953, December 5 at South Yarra1942 - 34 Morang Road, Hawthorn (with son William)
1949 - 28 Lyndhurst Crescent, Hawthorn (with son William)Age at Death 57 yearsBurial Footscray Cemetery, Footscray, Victoria
Children 1. Pvt William Alick McDonaldBorn 1920, June 14 in VictoriaFather William McDonaldMother Isabella Rubina Mary McNayOccupation LabourerMarriage 1957 in VictoriaSpouse Norma Lesley Campbell (1927 - 2019)Death 1975, October 30 in VictoriaAge at Death 55 yearsBurial Altona Memorial Park
2. George Albert McNay
Born 1898 at Footscray, VictoriaFather George McNayMother Mary Robina NottMarriage 1923 in VictoriaSpouse Ethel Victoria BlighBorn 1901 in Footscray, VictoriaFather William BlighMother Margaret McPheeDeath 1970, June 22 in MelbourneAge at Death 69 yearsResidences 1925 - 109 Wales Street, Footscray NorthOccupation Labourer1942 - 1972 - 10 Murray Street, Yarraville1977 = Lismore Road, Cressy, Victoria
1980 - 13 Richard Street, ColacDeath 1984, November 21 in Colac, VictoriaAge at Death 86 years
Burial Altona, VictoriaChildren 1. Kenneth William McNay
Born 1924, September 5 in Seddon, Victoria
Father George Albert McNayMother Ethel Victoria Bligh
Married 1949Spouse Hilda Louise TaddayDeath 2008, November 12Age at Death 82 yearsCremated 2008, November 19 at Altona NorthChildren 1. Rhonda McNay
2. Judith McNay
2. Norman George McNay
Born 1931, March 4 in VictoriaFather George Albert McNayMother Ethel Victoria BlighMarried 1953Spouse Mary Patricia Gwendolen Brown (1935 - ....)Death 2005, February 15 at FootscrayAge at Death 74 yearsChildren 1. Ian Norman McNay (1954 - 2022)
2. Laurie Alan McNay (1956 - 2011)3. Peter Andrew McNay (1961 - 2012)
4. Graham Charles McNay (.... - ....)
3. William Thomas McNay
Born 1900 at Footscray, VictoriaFather George McNayMother Mary Robina NottDeath 1923, May 29 in EastCause of Death Suicide by taking Lysol PoisonAge at Death 23 yearsBurial Footscray Cemetery, Footscray1923 - Inquest - William Thomas McNayProceedings of Inquest held upon the body of William Thomas McNay at Melbourne Morgue. Signed R.H. Cole, CoronerOn 29th day of May, 1923 at Melbourne in the Melbourne Hospital, William Thomas McNay died from the effects of poison self-administered at Footscray. I decide that he died by his own act on the same day. There is some evidence of mental disorder at the time he took the poison.Report of L.A.Baker, Victoria Police Constable 6031, Russel Street, Station Melbourne, dated 29 May, 1923, Relative to the death of W.T. McNay at the Melbourne HospitalDr. Reid reports the death at the Melbourne Hospital of William Thomas McNay, single, 32 years of age, late of David Street, Yarraville.He was taken to the Hospital by Constable 5855 at 11.40 am today suffering from Lysol poisoning. He died at 12.40 p.m.The Yarraville Police are finalising a report for the information of the Coroner. Signed L.A. Baker, Constable 6031Yarraville Police Station. Report of Arthur F. Rogers, Constable 5855, relative to taking a young man, name W.T. McNay, to the Melbourne Hospital suffering from poisoning self administered.1. I have to report that at 9.35 am on the 29.5.23, I was on duty at the Yarraville watch house when I received a telephone message that a man had taken poison at the Yarraville gardens.2. I at once proceeded to the gardens where I was met by a Mr. Laffey who is employed as a gardener by the Footscray City Council, who informed me that a man was lying in the quarry hole close to the gardens and had told him that he had taken Lysol thinking it was whiskey.3. In company with Mr. Laffey, I went to the quarry hole close to the Yarraville gardens when I saw the deceased lying on the ground fully clothed with a half bottle of Lysol and a glass alongside of him.4. I spoke to him and said 'what is the trouble'. He replied 'nothing'. I then said to him ' have you taken any of this Lysol' at the same time showing him the bottle. He replied 'yes'. I then said where did you obtain it from. He said 'Redleys Chemist Shop, Ballarat Street, Yarraville.'5. I then said to him 'why did you take it'. He replied "I don't know.' I said 'are you in trouble over anything. He replied 'no'.6. I then obtained the services of Dr. McKay of Seddon who on seeing the deceased ordered him to the Melbourne Hospital to which institution he was admitted and attended to by Dr. Fitzpatrick.7. On my arrival back to the watch house I was rang up from the Melbourne Hospital and told that McNay had died. I at once informed his parents of his death.8. The deceased was a single man, 22 years of age and resided with his parents at 14 David Street, Yarraville. Signed Arthur F. Rogers, Constable 5855.Coroner's InquestThis deponent, George McNay, on his oath, said , I am a baker, residing at 19 David Street, Yarraville.I saw the body of the deceased at the morgue and I identified it as that of William Thomas McNay. He was my son and was aged 22 years. He was a road labourer. I last saw him alive at 9.30 am on the 28th last month. He then seemed in good spirits. I asked him to feed the ferrets and he did so. There was nothing the matter with him. I did not know that he had any poison. Signed G. McNay, 13 June, 23 at Melbourne.The deponent, Crawford Henry Mollison on his oath, saith, I am a legally qualified Surgeon residing at Melbourne.On the 30th day of May, 1923 at the City Morgue, Melbourne, I made a post-mortem examination of the body of William Thomas McNay.The body was that of a young man, five feet nine inches in height, rigour-mortis and post mortem staining were present and were well marked. Both forearms were extensively tattood, the upper lip was dry and dark. The heart was healthy, the left side was firmly contracted, the cavities contained dark clotted and some fluid blood.The lungs were distended, intensely congested and were engorged with fluid and were friable, the windpipe was congested, the bronchi were markedly hemorrhagic, the inside of the epiglottis was congested, there was no swelling of the folds about the glottis. The stomach contained turbid bile stained fluid,there was no distinctive odour.The liver was firm and congested. The spleen, Pancreas and Supra-renal capsules seemed fairly normal. The kidneys were congested, they were smooth and firm, their capsules were tending to adhere, their cortices were broad and streaky. The brain did not show any lesion, it was congested, the skull was dense and heavy it was not specially thick, but was grooved by the vessels and showed patches of atrophy.The appearances were those of the inhalation of an irritant into the air passages.I would not expect him to be altogether healthy in mind. Dated 13 June, 1923.The deponent, John William Birch PedleyI am a registered chemist residing at Ballarat Street, Yarraville. I am an assistant to my father. I knew the deceased by sight. I remember the 28th last month.The deceased came to my father's shop and asked for a 2 shilling bottle of Lysol and that was given to him, and it was placed in an 8 ounce poison bottle. When I handed it to him, I told him to be careful and to keep it from the children. There is a great sale of Lysol and it is used as an antiseptic. Dated 13 June, 1923The deponent, James Laffey, Gardiner residing at 24 Wales Street, West Footscray.On the morning of the 29th last month, I was at work in the garden and I went to the quarry and I saw deceased lying in the quarry and I said to him 'What is the matter." He said "I have taken poison in place of Whiskey." He then asked me to get a motor car and take him to the hospital. I told him I would. I then went and rang the Police. I saw the bottle lying in the quarry. It was very similar to the one purchased and there also was a glass there. Signed James Laffey, 13 June 1923The deponent, Arthur Frederick Rogers, Constable of Police, YarravilleI prepared the brief produced and it is in my writing. The report I made is correct and I have nothing to add to it. I have not discovered how he came to take the poison except that he was worried over his not being employed.
4. Ellen Florence McNay
Born 1906, January 31 at Carlton, VictoriaFather George McNayMother Mary Robina NottMarriage 1945, VictoriaSpouse Donald Effingham Deans
Burial Fawkner Memorial Park, Fawkner, VictoriaDeath 2004, September 28 at Sunbury, VictoriaBorn 1911, April 22 at FootscrayFather James Dean (1888-1948)Mother Vera May Leonard (1891 - 1967)Death 1960, January 4, MelbourneAge at Death 98 yearsChildren 1. Glenda Deans2. Merle Frances Deans
5. Nellie Rachael McNay
Born 1910 at Footscray, VictoriaFather George McNayMother Mary Robina NottMarriage 1934, April 27 at Yarraville, VictoriaSpouse Leonard Charles McNish
Born 1912Father Arthur James McNish (1881 - 1957)Mother Jessie Anne Jones (1884 - 1970)Occupation LocksmithDied 1992Age at Death 80 yearsDeath 1978, July 10 at Melbourne
Age at Death 68 yearsBurial Altona, VictoriaChildren 1. Elizabeth Mary McNish2. Dorothy Grace McNish
2. Isabella Rubina McNay
Born 1876, December 15 at Glanville, SAFather George McNayMother Mary Rachael KerrDeath 1894, November 17 at Cremorne Street, Richmond, Victoria
Age at Death 17 yearsBurial Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton, Victoria
3. Elizabeth Margaret McNay
Born 1878, September 10 at Glanville, SAFather George McNayMother Mary Rachael KerrMarriage 1903 in VictoriaSpouse Andrew Henry Kreyts
Born 1876 in Fitzroy, VictoriaFather Dirk Kreijts (1842 - 1911)Mother Alida rietman (1843 - 1878)Occupations - 1903 - Baker
Death 1944, September in Victoria1912 - Farmer1916 - Timber worker1921 - Boiler attendant1928 - 1942 - WatchmanBuried Box Hill Cemetery, Box Hill, Victoria
Residences 1903 - Grantville, Victoria (Henry Kreyts)1912 - Langwarrin, Victoria with husband
1916 - 30 Durham Street, Richmond South, with husband
1921 - 82 Duke Street, Richmond, with husband
1928 - 1942 - 35 Smart Street, Hawthorn, with daughter, Alma Rita Kreyts (milliner, and son, Archibald Ronald Kreyts (clicker) and husbandDeath 1964, April in Victoria
Age at Death 86 years
Burial Box Hill Cemetery, Box HillChildren 1. Ardila (or Arleada) Beatrice Kreyts
Born 1912 in Richmond, VictoriaFather Andrew Henri KreytsMother Elizabeth Margaret McNayDeath 1912 in Richmond, VictoriaAge at Death 12 daysBurial Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton, Victoria
2. Alma Rita Kreyts
Born 1904 in Richmond, VictoriaFather Andrew Henri KreytsMother Elizabeth Margaret McNayMarriage 1929, VictoriaSpouse Robert Edward Joseph Boyle (1906 - 1979)Occupation MillinerDeath 1989, September 10 at Mt. Waverley, VictoriaAge at Death 85 yearsBurial Springvale Cemetery, VictoriaChildren 1. Harley Owen Boyle
3. Archibald Ronald Kreyts
Born 1906 in Richmond, VictoriaFather Andrew Henri KreytsMother Elizabeth Margaret McNayMarriage 1928, VictoriaSpouse Eileen Ethel Taylor (1907 - 1992)Death 1963, August 31 at Hawthorn East, VictoriaAge at Death 57 yearsBurialChildren 1. Leslie Ronald Kreyts (1928 - 2003)
4. Ellen McNay
Born 1880, September 15 at Staplehurst, SAFather George McNayMother Mary Rachael KerrMarriage 1933 in South MelbourneSpouse Henry John Reid
Born 1883, April 30 in Carlton, VictoriaFather Alexander ReidMother Jennie FergusonDeath 1936, October 24 at ParkvilleAge at Death 53 yearsBuried Box Hill Cemetery
Death 1967, December 2 at Mont Park, Victoria
Age at Death 83 yearsCause of Death Chronic Suppurative Bronchitis; Coronary SclerosisCremation 1967, December 6 at Springvale Crematorium, VictoriaChildren 1. Bonnie Reid (1915 - 1986)
1933 Marriage Certificate for Henry John Reid and Ellen McNay
1967 - Death Certificate for Ellen McNay
5. Mabel James McNay
Born 1882, September 27 at Fisherville, SA
Father George McNay
Mother Mary Rachael KerrMarriage 1898 in Lawloit, VictoriaSpouse Watson McDonell
Born 1874Father William McDonellMother Catherine AndrewDeath 1959 at Yallourn, VictoriaAge at Death 85 yearsBurial Springvale Cemetery, Victoria
Death 1963, November 7 at Yallourn, Latrobe City, VictoriaAge at Death 81 years
Cremated Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Victoria
1895 - AssaultSource : Victorian Police Gazette dated May 22, 1895Children 1. Mabel Elizabeth McDonell
Born 1898 in Richmond, VictoriaFather Watson McDonellMother Mabel James McNayMarriage 1921 in VictoriaSpouse William Ritchie Griffiths
Born Abt 1895 in VictoriaFather George Goodman GriffithsMother Agnes Amelia RitchieDeath 1973 in Victoria
Death 1986, June 28 at Yallourn, Latrobe CityAge at Death 88 yearsBuried Springvale Botanical CemeteryChildren 1. Gwendolyn Agnes Mabel Griffiths
2. Watson George GriffithsBorn 1923Died 1923
Born 1924Died 1988
2. Rachael Ellen McDonell
Born 1900 in Richmond, Victoria
Father Watson McDonell
Mother Mabel James McNayMarriage 1922Spouse Henry William Hattam
Born 1896Father Edward HattamMother Mary Philomena HarmerDied 1968Death 1962, April 14 at Yallourn, Latrobe CityBuried Yallourn CemeteryAge at Death 62 yearsHenry William Hattam and Mabel James McNayChildren 1. Myrtle Irene Hattam (1923 - 2017)
2. Helen Jean Hattam (1925 - 2017)3. Edward Donel Hattam (1927 - 2013)
Born 1927, May 24Father Henry Wiliam HattamMother Rachael Ellen McDonellSpouse Dorothy Annie WilliamsDied 2013, January 2Buried Leongatha Cemetery, South Gippsland, Victoria
Children 1. Judy Hattam2. John Hattam3. Pamela Hattam
3. Dorothy Irene McDonell
Born 1903, November 6 in Richmond, VictoriaFather Watson McDonellMother Mabel James McNayMarriage #1 1922 in VictoriaSpouse #1 Clarence William Victor Davey (1898 - 1972)
Marriage #2 1948 in Marrickville, NSWSpouse Herbert Prosper Charles Kable (1904 - 1964)Death 1988, April 8 in Sydney, NSWAge at Death 84 yearsBuried Palmdale Lawn Cemetery & Memorial Park, Palmdale, Central Coast, NSWChildren 1. Elizabeth Joan Davey
Born 1923
Father Clarence W.V. DaveyMother Dorothy Irene McDonellSpouse Watson George GriffithsDied 2010
2. Robert Laing DaveyBorn 1925Father Clarence W.V. DaveyMother Dorothy Irene McDonellSpouse Irene Emily Josephine Rushton (1921 - 2004)Died 1983
3. Dorothy Dawn Davey
4. Johannah Mabel DaveyBorn 1930Father Clarence W.V. DaveyMother Dorothy Irene McDonellSpouse Eric Edwin Cox (1920 - 1972)Died 2012
Born 1932
Father Clarence W.V. DaveyMother Dorothy Irene McDonellSpouse James Sidney Edward Moores (1916 - 1998)Died 2012
4. Myrtle Watson McDonell
Born 1906 in Richmond, VictoriaFather Watson McDonellMother Mabel James McNayMarriage 1929Spouse Charles McWilliam
Born 1901Father John Godfrey McWilliamMother Maria WoudaDied 1970
Death 1981, July 21 in QueenslandAge at Death 75 yearsBuried Toowoomba Garden of Remembrance, Toowoomba, Queensland
6. James Albert aka Jim McNay
Born 1885, March 29 at Mitcham Park, SAFather George McNayMother Mary Rachael KerrMarriage 1911 in VictoriaSpouse Agnes Carstairs
Born 1876Father William CarstairsMother Mary Ann NelsonDied 1929 at Heidelberg, VictoriaAge at Death 53 years
Residences 1914 - 1916 - 14 Madden Grove, Richmond, with wife1921 - 1924 - 7 Swan Street, Richmond, Agnes alone)Occupations 1914 - BakerDeath 1917, April 6 at 13th General Hospital, Boulogne, FranceAge at Death 32 years
Cause of Death Died of wounds suffered in World War 1
Burial Boulogne, FranceChildren 1. James Albert McNay
Born 1911 in Richmond, VictoriaFather James Albert McNayMother Agnes CarstairsDeath 1911 in Carlton, VictoriaAge at Death 1 monthCause of DeathBurial
2. William George McNay
Born 1913, February 26 in Richmond, Victoria
Father James Albert McNayMother Agnes CarstairsMarriage 1936 VictoriaSpouse Lorna Lillian LawsonBorn 1918Re-marriage 1954 in VictoriaSpouse #2 Ernst Stewart PattersonDied 1967Age at Death 49 yearsDeath 1956Age at Death 43 yearsBurial Rookwood General Cemetery, NSW
1934 - HOW OWNER RECOVERED CARTwo Charges Fail
William George McNay motor mechanic Canning Street Carlton was charged in the Richmond Court on Tuesday with having on May 21 Illegally used a motor car the property of Ernest Albert Walker Tyler street, Preston and with having been in possession of housebreaking implements.Walker said that he left his motor car in Lennox Street at 3.20 p m and 50 minutes later it had disappeared. He found it later in Wangaratta Street and saw two men sitting in the front seat. They both appeared to be trying to fix wires under the dashboard. He asked McNay what he was doing. McNay replied “my friends brought the car then and asked me to wire it up. After McNay had fixed up the wires he drove with witness to the police station.Constable xxxxx said that at the police station he asked Walker how he had induced McNay to drive to the police station. Walker replied he had threatened to hit him with a curtain rod of the car, Constable Lloyd said.Is it not a fact that you stole the car?McNay replied “I might as well tell the truth. I did steal the car.” On being searched McNay was found to be in possession of a glass cutter, a pair of gloves, a jack knife, and a pair of pliers He said that they had been given to him by a man called on by Mr O'Brien (for the defence). He said that there was no evidence that McNay had used the car. The articles found in his possession were his own property.McNay in evidence denied the admissions alleged to have been made to Constable Lloyd.Mr O Callaghan P M said that McNay had satisfied the Court about the possession of the articles. His conduct after he was found in the car in voluntarily accompanying Walker to the police station was consistent with innocence.The charges were dismissed.Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), Wednesday 30 May 1934, page 14
1935 - REVOLVER AND BLACK MASK IN COURTYoung Man Charged
A black mask, a .45 revolver, and other articles were yesterday found in the possession of William George McNay, 21, cook, of Cardigan Street, Carlton, according to the police prosecutor at the City Court today.“There have been a lot of hold-ups lately," the prosecutor said. "Certain descriptions have been given, and we want the people who have been robbed lo look at this man." He said that two constables found the articles in McNay's room, when they took him there, after they had seen him attempting to sell a wireless set in a shop in Queen Street.McNay was remanded to January 23. on a charge of haying had possession of an unregistered pistol. He was granted bail in £200, with a similar surety.Herald (Melbourne, Vic. : 1861 - 1954), Friday 18 January 1935, page 8
1935 - THE POLICE COURTS. - "USEFUL” FINED £10Mask, Gloves And Coloured Glasses.
William George McNay, a guest, house "useful” living in Cardigan Street, appeared at Carlton court yesterday on a charge of having had possession of an unregistered pistol.Constable Batersby said that in McNay's room he found a pistol, a black mask, a pair of coloured glasses and a pair of gloves.In a written statement McNay said he found the revolver on the road near Albury and that he had not used it since, and that no had got the mask to wear at a fancy dress dance.Constable Byrne said the revolver was greased and ready for use.McNay was fined £10.On a charge of having broken into a garage in Swanston street and stolen a Baby Austin motor car and a wireless set, McNay was committed for trial.It was alleged that McNay drove the car to Kew and look the wireless set out of it, and that he was trying to sell it in Melbourne when he was arrested.Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954), Saturday 26 January 1935, page 14
1935 - PRISONERS SENTENCEDJudge Macindoe, in the Court of General Sessions yesterday, sentenced two prisoners.
Reginald Harris, 26 years. North Melbourne, barman and laborer, on two counts of factory breaking, one of stolen property and one of house house breaking, was sentenced to imprisonment for twelve months on each count, but two of them were made concurrent. Harris will thus serve two years imprisonment.William George McNay, 21 years Carlton, motor mechanic, on a charge of breaking, was sentenced to imprisonment for nine months.Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954), Friday 8 February 1935, page 14
1935 - William George McNay - Police Photographs
1942- William George McNay - Australian Army Enlistment Photographs
Children 1. Patricia June McNay
Born 1936, June 30 in Carlton, VictoriaFather William George McNayMother Lorna Lillian LawsonMarriage #1 1954 in VictoriaSpouse #1 John Alexander Bain (.... - 2006)Marriage #2Spouse #2 Ronald Charles Callaghan (1927 - 1984)Death 1983, November 27 at Maroondah Hospital, East RingwoodAge at Death 47 yearsCremation 1983, November 30 at Springvale, VictoriaChildren - Peter John Bain
Deborah Lorna Calaghan (1962 - 2005)Ronald Charles Callaghan (1971 - ....)
2. William Robert McNay
Born 1940, June 16Father William George McNayMother Lorna Lillian LawsonMarriage #1 1959 at St. John's Church, Toorak, VictoriaSpouse #1 Fay Marguerite Chambers
Born 1940, VictoriaFather Ernest Gordon Chambers (1914 - 1995)Mother Jean Colvin Stewart (1918 - ....)Death 2013Age at Death 73 years
Marriage #2Spouse Jean Marion Emmins
Born 1940, VictoriaFather James Richard Emmins (1902 - 1979)Mother Charlotte Barrett (1905 - 1988)Death 2015 in Lilydale, VictoriaAge at Death 75 yearsCremated with ashes scattered at Frankston Beach
Died 2021, November 8 at Box HillAge at Death 81 yearsBurial Lilydale Memorial Park, Lilydale, VictoriaChildren with Fay Marguerite Chambers -
Children with Jean Marion Emmins -1. Stephen William McNay(1960 - ....)2. Stewart McNay (1961 - ....)
3. William Robert McNay (1966 - ....)4. Gavin Michael McNay (1967 - ....)
5. Darren Peter McNay (1967 - ....)6. Anthony Brian McNay (1969-1969)7. Cheryl Anne Charlotte McNay (1971 - ....)8. Marc Anthony McNay (1972 - ....)9. Matthew Lionel McNay (1973 - ....)10. Nicole McNay (1975 - ....)
7. Rubina Emily McNay
Born 1877 at Hotham, VictoriaFather George McNayMother Mary Rachael KerrDeath 1888 at Hotham, Victoria
Age at Death 1 yearBurial
8. Albert McNay
Born 1889 at Richmond, VictoriaFather George McNayMother Mary Rachael KerrDeath 1890, January 18 at Richmond
Age at Death Less than 1 yearBurial Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton